We also talk about getting started in this profession, which both of them see as tremendously challenging and of great concern. When they started out, both of them had to lug around enormously heavy equipment (you didn’t ‘pop out to take a shot’ until you had spent various days examining the work to be photographed) but today everyone has their own ‘professional’ camera and for the price of a good photo-reportage you can buy a Canon 5D and a sliding lens and become a photographer. This is what the democratization of photography has led to. So who might need their services now, apart from people who like to use their own personal photographer, much like others have their own personal doctor? The only photographers who can survive these days are those who bring their own individual perspective to bear which makes them unique and irreplaceable, but how do you achieve that? Duccio has always felt that sense of competition, both now and in the past (so nothing has changed in this respect); there is always someone who’ll do it quicker or cheaper or that; but how do you get to be the best? It’s all twisted up with that perfectionism again. His own view is that if you commission the design of your house to an architect, you will only have that one architect; yet that same building of which he takes a photograph of can be shot by any number of other photographers, and if their photographs are better than his, then his will consequently be valueless. Naturally, as they say in Italy and everywhere else, the grass is always greener on the other side. I believe that if this is not the future then it is certainly the context of our profession. Our parents wanted us to be architects, but they could never have known that being an architect these days has become a high-risk profession. Not to mention one of the most unreliable in the labour market.